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 Post subject: after removal, eSATA drive stays spinning
PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:40 pm 
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With my external USB drive, Safely Remove version 4.0 beta 7 removes the drive from the drive list and the drive then stops spinning.

With my eSATA drive, Safely Remove version 4.0 beta 7 removes the drive from the drive list but the drive then stays spinning.

Q1 - Is it normal and safe for an eSATA drive to stay spinning after being removed by Safely Remove?

Q2 - If the answer to Q1 is "no," can Safely Remove be made to stop an eSATA drive from spinning?

Q3 - if the answer to Q1 is "yes," is the proper next step (a) to power-down the eSATA drive or (b) to disconnect the eSATA cable -- or (c) does that sequence matter?

Thanks!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:00 pm 
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Neither DriveSwap32 nor HotSwap! spins down my eSATA drive. As well, neither does RemoveDrive nor Sysinternals Sync (e.g., "sync -r -e g"). I have not been able to locate a download of sdparm.exe, and so have not been able to try that program.

My eSATA drive can be stopped by Device Manager "Disable," but Windows then requires rebooting, so the Device Manager procedure is no more effective or user-friendly than --
1) shut down the computer,
2) disconnect the eSATA drive, and
3) restart the computer.

The only remaining possibility that I know of is Microsoft's DevCon (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=311272), but it is user-unfriendly and so I have not pursued it.

Of all such programs/procedures, USB Safely Remove certainly seems best.

The lack of eSATA spin-down concerns me. I cannot risk corrupting my data, and of course I also do not want to risk damaging the eSATA drive. Disconnecting a spun-down drive is more reassuring than disconnecting a drive which is still spinning!


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Thank you for your question and sorry for the delay with the response.

In a common case it is normal that drive doesn't spin down, because stopping of the device leads to parking of its drive heads. However there some remaining amount of power feed the drive therefore it doesn't spin down.

Our feature "stopping via disabling" mainly intended for those drivers whose developers specified in documentation that these drivers can be stopped using "Disable" feature of the Device Manager. So I advice you to refer to the vendor documentation.

Next, may I ask you to test these to third party tools and tell me if they can spin down your device or not?
1. http://driveswap.com/files/driveswap32_130.zip
2. http://mysite.verizon.net/kaakoon/hotsw ... .1.1.0.ZIP

Regards,
Igor Tkachenko
http://safelyremove.com


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:43 pm 
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Greene wrote:
Neither DriveSwap32 nor HotSwap! spins down my eSATA drive. As well, neither does RemoveDrive nor Sysinternals Sync (e.g., "sync -r -e g"). I have not been able to locate a download of sdparm.exe, and so have not been able to try that program.

My eSATA drive can be stopped by Device Manager "Disable," but Windows then requires rebooting, so the Device Manager procedure is no more effective or user-friendly than --
1) shut down the computer,
2) disconnect the eSATA drive, and
3) restart the computer.

The only remaining possibility that I know of is Microsoft's DevCon (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=311272), but it is user-unfriendly and so I have not pursued it.

Of all such programs/procedures, USB Safely Remove certainly seems best.

The lack of eSATA spin-down concerns me. I cannot risk corrupting my data, and of course I also do not want to risk damaging the eSATA drive. Disconnecting a spun-down drive is more reassuring than disconnecting a drive which is still spinning!

Greene,
Thanks for your detailed reply and again sorry for the delay with the response.

As I mentioned earlier we will try to implement SATA spinning-down feature in the next versions of the program.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:59 pm 
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Implementing an eSATA spin-down feature would be very good.

I have recommended Safely Remove to four other Windows users, all of whom use eSATA drives.


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 Post subject: Re: after removal, eSATA drive stays spinning
PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:34 am 
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This post is for the attention of Igor Tkachenko.

Do you think it will be possible for an upcoming version of USB Safely Remove to implement an eSATA spin-down feature?

Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: after removal, eSATA drive stays spinning
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:35 pm 
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Greene wrote:
This post is for the attention of Igor Tkachenko.

Do you think it will be possible for an upcoming version of USB Safely Remove to implement an eSATA spin-down feature?

Thanks!

Hi Greene,
Many apologizes for so long response.

Unfortunately we haven't done any investigations of this issue so I cannot promise you that we will implement it without fail. However we will try.


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